a new way to cheat sync for music videos?

[xclark]

i've been thinking about a cheap way to do this because i'm going to do a video for a friend.

there were many solutions in the Time Code Slate idea...? threatd but none of them could i implement for various reasons. here's a variation on Alex's good ideas, but i'm not sure if it will work. opinions?

1. set a dv camera somewhere around taping the CD player's counter on one side of the video frame and on the other side of the frame, a view of the old fashioned slate that's also in front of the action being filmed by the Super 8 camera - also filming the slate.

2. line them up simply in your editing program and edit away....

i was thinking that it might be more difficult than helpful to try to film the CD player's counter in the Super 8 camera at the top of every shot. is there anything that i'm not thinking of that would make this difficult at all? seems to me like a simple way to do this. anyone? Alex? Jocko?

cheers,
clark

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[jocko]

Just do it like Roger said in his post...You don't need to add the pain of trying to shoot a little CD display..even a non-Xtal camera will hold sync in small bites..you don't need any kind of backwoods "timecode"...

Neil
JOCKO FILMS

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[Alex]

Because sound is not being recorded when you shoot with your super-8 camera, A CD audio/visual reference tool would be extremely helpful for quick syncing in post.

Non linear does simplify the syncing process quite a bit.

So if a properly labled and legible clap-board slate with the exact starting line of lyric written on the slate was used before every take, that would be the easiest of all approaches.

I still think using the CD as a "faux" Denecke time-code slate is a "win win" however.

The pre-recorded chapters on the CD represent overlapping sections of the song.

beginning and ending beep tones for every chapter portion on the CD make the overall syncing process easier in post.

The audio countdown beep tones and numbered chapter starts are both visually represented on the CD display, which is then captured as a slate by the film camera.

The Audio Led Read-Out captured on the CD face-slate would make syncing dailies a snap.

The biggest problem with the CD Display idea would be how legible is the Led Read-Out to begin with and is the exposure value of the CD Display read-out markedly different from the live scene you are shooting (along with focus)?

Simply labeling your good old fashioned wooden slate with the first lyric line of the scene you are about to shoot may be the best approach because it's certainly the easiest.

Even if you don't want to try and use the CD players display as a faux "denecke" slate...

Making a CD with the full song, and then various overlapping "chapters" of the song with beginning and ending beep tones still makes a lot of sense.

-Alex





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[This message has been edited by Alex (edited August 24, 2001).]